Explain fully qualified syntax for `Rc` and `Arc` #76138

camelid · 2020-08-31T01:47:11Z

Also cleaned up some other small things.

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matklad · 2020-09-01T10:47:30Z

library/alloc/src/rc.rs

@@ -35,15 +35,26 @@
 //! `Rc<T>` automatically dereferences to `T` (via the [`Deref`] trait),
 //! so you can call `T`'s methods on a value of type [`Rc<T>`][`Rc`]. To avoid name
 //! clashes with `T`'s methods, the methods of [`Rc<T>`][`Rc`] itself are associated
-//! functions, called using function-like syntax:
+//! functions, called using [fully qualified syntax]:


Do we actually call this "fully qualified syntax"? I thought that would be reserved for <RC>::downgrade form.

Naively, "function like syntax" or "associated function syntax" seem like better options to me here.

Yes, "fully-qualified sytax" is used for the form with the <>s. I would drop the extra clause, and just end after "functions."

Hmm, wouldn’t it be better to give the readers somewhere to read more about fully qualified syntax? Side note, shouldn’t it be “fully-qualified syntax” with a hyphen?

wouldn’t it be better to give the readers somewhere to read more about fully qualified syntax?

Maybe. I am purely thinking about the wording itself.

Side note, shouldn’t it be “fully-qualified syntax” with a hyphen?

I don't think so; the hyphen would be used if it is confusing which part "qualified" is attached to, that is, to disambiguate between

fully-qualified syntax fully qualified-syntax

but I don't think that the latter would be a common interpretation

matklad · 2020-09-01T10:54:47Z

library/alloc/src/rc.rs

+//! `Rc<T>`'s implementations of traits like `Clone` should also be called using
+//! fully qualified syntax to avoid confusion as to whether the *reference* is being
+//! cloned or the *backing data* (`T`) is being cloned:
+//!
+//! ```
+//! use std::rc::Rc;
+//!
+//! let my_rc = Rc::new(());
+//! let your_rc = Rc::clone(&my_rc);
+//! ```


Note that we explicitly decided against this in #63252.

My personal opinion is that people do use Arc::clone syntax in the wild, so this should be in the official docs one way or another, but probably without "should" or "idiomatic" langauge.

Urgh, but #63252 didn't update

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blame/6f1bbf5ee014cdad5d95f13266b177d89cc40d89/library/alloc/src/rc.rs#L64-L66

I guess, the status quo is confused here, and we should probably try to be consistent at least withing stdlib itself :)

We teach the ::clone version in the book too; I wasn't notified of that thread either :)

I learned the ::clone version (I guess from the book?) and I think it has clearer intent. Maybe for now we’ll go with it here and then we can change it later if we end up updating places like in the book?

+1 for not using ::clone as per #63252
It's no longer the official guidance, and I don't think the existence of its use in other resources is good justification for continuing to use it in example code.

still waiting for this change, @camelid . (I don't like it but it appears to be the consensus.)

bors · 2020-09-03T08:34:43Z

☔ The latest upstream changes (presumably #76235) made this pull request unmergeable. Please resolve the merge conflicts.

camelid · 2020-09-03T19:54:01Z

Rebased.

bors · 2020-09-04T01:57:23Z

☔ The latest upstream changes (presumably #73996) made this pull request unmergeable. Please resolve the merge conflicts.

camelid · 2020-09-04T02:36:04Z

Not again!

camelid · 2020-09-04T02:43:43Z

Rebased.

cramertj · 2020-09-15T23:57:46Z

compiler/rustc_typeck/src/astconv/mod.rs

@@ -1266,7 +1266,7 @@ impl<'o, 'tcx> dyn AstConv<'tcx> + 'o {
        } else {
            err.span_suggestion(
                span,
-                "use fully-qualified syntax",
+                "use fully qualified syntax",


Why was the hyphen here removed? It seems correct to me.

I agree; I think it's correct with the hyphen. The issue is that it's referred to without the hyphen everywhere else in the compiler and in the book. I figure that unless and until we change it elsewhere, it should be consistent.

See @steveklabnik's comment: #76138 (comment).

crlf0710 · 2020-10-08T10:45:42Z

r? @steveklabnik

steveklabnik · 2020-10-08T14:58:11Z

library/alloc/src/rc.rs

+//! `Rc<T>`'s implementations of traits like `Clone` should also be called using
+//! fully qualified syntax to avoid confusion as to whether the *reference* is being
+//! cloned or the *backing data* (`T`) is being cloned:
+//!
+//! ```
+//! use std::rc::Rc;
+//!
+//! let my_rc = Rc::new(());
+//! let your_rc = Rc::clone(&my_rc);
+//! ```


still waiting for this change, @camelid . (I don't like it but it appears to be the consensus.)

Dylan-DPC-zz · 2020-10-28T00:37:12Z

@camelid any updates on this? thanks

camelid · 2020-10-28T00:42:23Z

Yeah, I've been meaning to get to this.

camelid · 2020-10-28T23:32:14Z

Starting with a rebase.

camelid · 2020-10-28T23:33:47Z

I'm dropping the commit changing fully-qualified syntax to fully qualified syntax in the compiler since it should be a separate change.

That recommendation was removed last year; there isn't a particular style that is officially recommended anymore.

camelid · 2020-10-28T23:50:31Z

@steveklabnik This is ready for a re-review :)

steveklabnik · 2020-10-29T15:18:29Z

Thank you!

@bors: r+ rollup

bors · 2020-10-29T15:18:31Z

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Don't say you "should" use fully qualified syntax

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That recommendation was removed last year; there isn't a particular style that is officially recommended anymore.

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